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Helene Dorothea von Landsperg

Female Abt 1670 -


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  • Name Helene Dorothea von Landsperg 
    Birth Abt 1670  Hamburg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Female 
    Person ID I2928  brahde
    Last Modified 26 Oct 2008 

    Father Gerhard Conrad von Landsperg   bur. 1700, Næs, Romerike, Norway Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Helene Engel von Hövel   d. 1685, Næs, Romerike, Norway Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Y  [1
    Notes 
    • From various Danish sources the family von Landsperg / von Hövel can be shown as including Philip and Johann Heinrich Landsperg.

      Then there are troubles to be found, not easily sorted out.

      Apparently there are only one mother, Helene Engel von Hövel, to all of the children though born in a time spanning from 1668-1710, 45 years. This is close to physically impossible, stronged by evidence of their fathers death around 1700 and their mothers already in 1685.

      Geographically the children are born somewhat spead out in Germany; not impossible, but worth to be aware of.

      No known sources of the two last children, Philip and Johann Heinrich, tell of a 'von' in their names, opposite to the first three children.

      In short: one or more of the currently known sources seem to be wrong. Suspicion is addressed to the Danish book "Vaabenførende Slægter i Danmark" as it points out Gerhard Conrad to be father of Philip, whereafter another Danish book, "Danske skovfolk" draw Johan Heinrich into the family, as a brother to Philip.

      Maybe there is a confusion of two generations involved - or of two families? If so a link, a generation, must be missing between Gerhard Conrad and the two brothers going to Denmark. An assumption, which can explain the amount of years between births as well as the problematics arising from these two brothers born after the death of their parents - and furthermore the unlogic abscence of a 'von' in their names.

      But if so: who were the parents of Philip and Johan Heinrich?

      Information on the matter will be most welcome!
    Family ID F00443  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Georg Heinrich Eckleff,   b. 1671   d. 1741 (Age 70 years) 
    Marriage 03 Aug 1706  Næs, Romerike, Norway Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Family ID F1039  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 26 Oct 2008 

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    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1670 - Hamburg, Germany Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S118] The family Hagerup (Reliability: 2).